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Post by toteend on Jul 12, 2017 16:14:35 GMT
In the club shop today and couldn't help but overhear a conversation Claire was having.
It seems someone has been organising the purchase of season tickets and then saying they have not been received. The shop then arrange for the season tickets in question to be replaced, and the little Cnut who is behind it then sells on the other season tickets.
As it happens the club know who is behind it and they will also know the numbers of the stolen season tickets. I believe they are for the Thatchers End.
This season the club will insist that the actual season ticket book will be handed to the turnstile operator, and any that are fraudulently obtained, will be retained and the person carrying it will be subject to arrest.
To think they call themselves gasheads. To my mind the club should name and shame them. Prior to them being done for theft/ fraud of course.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2017 16:29:35 GMT
Interesting juxtaposition to a recent legal proceeding stance taken by some on here.
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Post by Randle McMurphy on Jul 12, 2017 17:39:26 GMT
Interesting juxtaposition to a recent legal proceeding stance taken by some on here. I am a season ticket holder and do what I can to help the club financially. But I know that the club knew last season before the season kicked off they had an anonymous phone call to report that up to 15-20 season tickets have been stolen and sold from a warehouse before reaching the club shop. The shop and the stadium guy think it's XXXXXX not sure knew about it and I know nobody was caught and got away with this all season they don't check book numbers or anything else. This season the club had been informed again of a similar figure of stolen season tickets that will be used at the turnstiles first home game and the other 22, will they get caught? No. They knew about it last season and in terms of providing a better system they haven't so these thiefs will get away with it again, turnstile operators don't get paid enough to check every number that's the truth. They should of at least made some sort of plastic card that comes with your season ticket with full Name and address on even a photo or something.
ADMIN: Understand your enthusiasm to name and shame but that is a serious accusation so we're sticking to the innocent until proven guilty philosophy. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2017 20:47:34 GMT
ADMIN: Understand your enthusiasm to name and shame but that is a serious accusation so we're sticking to the innocent until proven guilty philosophy. While I agree with the innocent until proven guilty position, Randle asserted only that others thought it was the person whose name is censored here. Nobody proclaimed definite guilt, and I disagree with censorship of suspicion. |
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Post by dido on Jul 12, 2017 21:19:29 GMT
Shoveller, I think you misread what Randle said.
I had to read it twice to get it, mind. (It was badly expressed with no punctuation - this is why grammar, etc. matters)
He meant (I believe) "the shop people and the stadium guy (he thinks his name is xxxxx) knew about it.
Clearer now?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2017 21:26:09 GMT
I'm pretty certain Randle was naming "the stadium guy" rather than the culprit?!
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Post by Randle McMurphy on Jul 12, 2017 22:33:50 GMT
Shoveller, I think you misread what Randle said. I had to read it twice to get it, mind. (It was badly expressed with no punctuation - this is why grammar, etc. matters) He meant (I believe) "the shop people and the stadium guy (he thinks his name is xxxxx) knew about it. Clearer now? It was expressed in my way of expressing it, sure you checked my post twice but I bet you checked yours more than twice to make sure you never made your self look a fool for pointing out how crap my grammar and punctuation was. The shop were told last season and this season about the stolen season tickets but it was xxxxxx not xxxx that was told of the situation. Confirmed. Edited by Admin. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 7:29:49 GMT
Thanks y'all.
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Post by didlesknowmydad on Jul 13, 2017 8:09:07 GMT
Interesting juxtaposition to a recent legal proceeding stance taken by some on here. If they are "named and shamed" there'd be no point in prosecuting because the case would be thrown out of court. Fair trial not possible in those circumstances. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 8:50:54 GMT
Interesting juxtaposition to a recent legal proceeding stance taken by some on here. If they are "named and shamed" there'd be no point in prosecuting because the case would be thrown out of court. Fair trial not possible in those circumstances. Just interesting seeing certain people OK with £176k going missing but fuming over a season ticket.
EDIT : Hopefully the club will review their frankly archaic ticketing system.
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Post by Igitur on Jul 13, 2017 8:58:16 GMT
From OS:
We have been very disappointed to learn that some unscrupulous so called Bristol Rovers supporters fans are telling the club that their season tickets have not arrived and then selling them off once a replacement pack has been sent out.
We would like to remind all of our loyal supporters that they must bring their season ticket to every League game.
The turnstile operator will then take out the voucher from the season ticket book, rather than allow supporters to present them with the voucher only.
Anyone turning up with just the voucher will be refused entry. If the season ticket book does not have an inlet then they will be directed to the ticket office.
The Club needs to tighten up processes to prevent some so called fans from operating this scam and depriving the club of revenue.
We regret having to take this course of action but feel certain that every true Bristol Rovers Supporter will understand the reason behind it and we would like to thank you all in advance for your co-operation.
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Post by Peter Parker on Jul 13, 2017 9:33:50 GMT
If they are "named and shamed" there'd be no point in prosecuting because the case would be thrown out of court. Fair trial not possible in those circumstances. Just interesting seeing certain people OK with £176k going missing but fuming over a season ticket.
EDIT : Hopefully the club will review their frankly archaic ticketing system.
who is/was okay with 176k going missing?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 10:07:21 GMT
Just interesting seeing certain people OK with £176k going missing but fuming over a season ticket.
EDIT : Hopefully the club will review their frankly archaic ticketing system.
who is/was okay with 176k going missing?
Just a very different response, OK was probably the wrong terminology but it seems if you're liked people are more understanding. Theft is theft. |
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Post by Igitur on Jul 13, 2017 10:24:13 GMT
With the BRSC case we know much much more, and the effects of addiction attract some sympathy plus the money was paid back, remorse was shown, BRSC offered support and people are aware of the attached shame.
In the case of the season ticket scam, people have jumped to conclusions and are offended the club has been swindled by a supposed fan and have taken the moral high ground. On balance, it is likely to many that he is a toerag rather than there are underlying issues affecting his actions.
The club must have some record of the people involved, other than the receiver of the stolen property.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jul 13, 2017 11:51:12 GMT
With the BRSC case we know much much more, and the effects of addiction attract some sympathy plus the money was paid back, remorse was shown, BRSC offered support and people are aware of the attached shame. In the case of the season ticket scam, people have jumped to conclusions and are offended the club has been swindled by a supposed fan and have taken the moral high ground. On balance, it is likely to many that he is a toerag rather than there are underlying issues affecting his actions. The club must have some record of the people involved, other than the receiver of the stolen property. I'm sure if some drug addicts mugs you or breaks into your house to fund their habit you'll be rolling over with sympathy and offering them more |
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Post by Igitur on Jul 13, 2017 12:04:55 GMT
Sometimes things are taken too literally, there was the use of 'some' in the post.
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Post by c13 on Jul 13, 2017 23:21:30 GMT
With the BRSC case we know much much more, and the effects of addiction attract some sympathy plus the money was paid back, remorse was shown, BRSC offered support and people are aware of the attached shame. In the case of the season ticket scam, people have jumped to conclusions and are offended the club has been swindled by a supposed fan and have taken the moral high ground. On balance, it is likely to many that he is a toerag rather than there are underlying issues affecting his actions. The club must have some record of the people involved, other than the receiver of the stolen property. I'm sure if some drug addicts mugs you or breaks into your house to fund their habit you'll be rolling over with sympathy and offering them more Nice strawman you have there. There's obviously levels to sympathy in regards to crime and the guilty defendants (it was very clearly explained by Igitur above, and you know very well it was), and when all facts are presented along with imagery and news articles - as was with the BRSC case - it of course leads to a more "full" and less extreme response than a case we know fewer facts about, making us likelier to react more emotionally or to have incorrect stances, whether it this post's original topic or your fictional "what if" scenario (which, by the way, is vague as hell) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 23:41:13 GMT
With the BRSC case we know much much more, and the effects of addiction attract some sympathy plus the money was paid back, remorse was shown, BRSC offered support and people are aware of the attached shame. In the case of the season ticket scam, people have jumped to conclusions and are offended the club has been swindled by a supposed fan and have taken the moral high ground. On balance, it is likely to many that he is a toerag rather than there are underlying issues affecting his actions. The club must have some record of the people involved, other than the receiver of the stolen property. I'm sure if some drug addicts mugs you or breaks into your house to fund their habit you'll be rolling over with sympathy and offering them more Russel Brand seems to think he deserves sympathy for being a wealthy western youngster making a conscious decision to seek pleasure by using drugs. |
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Jul 14, 2017 5:57:10 GMT
Why don't we have a season card like many other clubs - or even a mobile solution? I guess that'll come with a new stadium...
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