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Post by knobrot on Jan 17, 2024 10:46:47 GMT
Arrived to great fanfare and so far been as much use as a rattlesnake in the lucky dip. Continually knocked off the ball by the slightest breeze and couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo. We’ve had a few of these down the years the earliest I can recall was Dick Plumb, but you never know,,,,.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2024 11:35:25 GMT
Arrived to great fanfare and so far been as much use as a rattlesnake in the lucky dip. Continually knocked off the ball by the slightest breeze and couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo. We’ve had a few of these down the years the earliest I can recall was Dick Plumb, but you never know,,,,. I did try to warn you, as well as the personal baggage. Fans spend too much time looking at states and don't see the bigger picture. He had 6 good months at Exeter and he had the benefit of Jay Stansfield and Sam Nombe alongside him. The lightweight comment was certainly the conclusion at Barnsley on Saturday. |
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Post by oldie on Jan 17, 2024 14:00:52 GMT
Arrived to great fanfare and so far been as much use as a rattlesnake in the lucky dip. Continually knocked off the ball by the slightest breeze and couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo. We’ve had a few of these down the years the earliest I can recall was Dick Plumb, but you never know,,,,. Dick Plumb....that stirred some memories |
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Jan 17, 2024 14:11:40 GMT
Arrived to great fanfare and so far been as much use as a rattlesnake in the lucky dip. Continually knocked off the ball by the slightest breeze and couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo. We’ve had a few of these down the years the earliest I can recall was Dick Plumb, but you never know,,,,. Dick Plumb....that stirred some memories Yeah, he was a jammy bugger |
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Post by bluetornados on Jan 17, 2024 14:40:20 GMT
Richard Kevin Plumb (born 24th September 1946) is a former professional association footballer, who played as a forward in The Football League for three different teams.
Plumb started out as an apprentice with his home town team, Swindon Town, but although he spent 16 months as a professional with them he never made it into the first team.
His League debut came after moving to Bristol Rovers in April 1965, when he played against Brighton & Hove Albion in October of that year.
He went on to make 39 League appearances for The Pirates, scoring eight goals.
Non-League side Yeovil Town broke their transfer record to sign him for £3,000 in October 1968.
His first of two spells with the Somerset club saw him score 53 goals in 111 appearances in all competitions, and when Charlton Athletic came in to sign him in September 1970 he also became Yeovil's record sale, at £7,000.
He made 43 League appearances and scored ten goals for Charlton, before moving on to Exeter City in 1972, where he played a further 59 times in The Football League and scored 17 goals.
In 1974, he returned to Yeovil Town, and in this spell he played a grand total of 226 games and scored 97 goals.
His combined total of 150 goals for The Glovers made him their second highest scoring post-war player, as of March 2010.
He ended his footballing career with Chard Town, who he joined in the summer of 1978.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Jan 17, 2024 15:35:22 GMT
Not one of JB's best signings.Besides Dick Plumb we had Terry Oldfield who was somewhat lacking.
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Post by alftupper on Jan 18, 2024 7:33:27 GMT
Arrived to great fanfare and so far been as much use as a rattlesnake in the lucky dip. Continually knocked off the ball by the slightest breeze and couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo. We’ve had a few of these down the years the earliest I can recall was Dick Plumb, but you never know,,,,. Agreed. Very glad he didn`t get picked for last night`s game. If he`d done his usual trick of meandering about like he was on a pub crawl down the Gloucester Road, it would have been hard to take. |
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Post by oldie on Jan 18, 2024 8:20:40 GMT
Not one of JB's best signings.Besides Dick Plumb we had Terry Oldfield who was somewhat lacking. I was young but I thought the trio of Oldfield, Davis and Mabbutt were effective for a few seasons. |
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Post by bluetornados on Jan 18, 2024 9:01:25 GMT
Taken from the books by Mike Jay and Stephen Byrne as reference: Terry nearly made it to his 79th birthday, passing only within 4 days.
Terence James Oldfield (born 1st April 1939) is a former professional footballer, who played as a centre forward and wing half in The Football League for Bristol Rovers and Wrexham between 1958 and 1967.
Oldfield began playing football in his home town of Bristol, first for Bristol Boys, and then briefly as an amateur for Bristol City and Clifton St. Vincents.
He signed with Bristol Rovers as an amateur in February 1958 and turned professional with them in 1960. He made 132 League appearances and scored eleven goals with The Pirates, before joining Welsh club Wrexham and being appointed their captain in 1966.
He was to last only a single year with The Robins though, as a knee injury forced him to retire from playing in 1967, aged 28.
After his retirement from playing, he worked as the trainer of Bradford Park Avenue, a scout for Bristol Rovers, and a manager of his former non-League side Clifton St. Vincents.
In addition, he also worked as an estate agent and auctioneer in Keynsham and ran the Red Lion pub in Odd Down.
He also played cricket for Brislington Cricket Club, and golf for Saltford golf club.
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Post by alftupper on Jan 18, 2024 10:06:18 GMT
Not one of JB's best signings.Besides Dick Plumb we had Terry Oldfield who was somewhat lacking. I was young but I thought the trio of Oldfield, Davis and Mabbutt were effective for a few seasons. Better than Crosby, Stills and Nash? |
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Post by oldie on Jan 18, 2024 10:17:00 GMT
I was young but I thought the trio of Oldfield, Davis and Mabbutt were effective for a few seasons. Better than Crosby, Stills and Nash? Nash was the weakest link😲😂 |
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Post by rideintothesun on Jan 18, 2024 10:32:08 GMT
Players play well within a system. Take the player out of the system, and they are not the same player.
Example One: Westbrooke was a key figure in a side promoted out of this division.
Example Two: Onana was a champions league final goalkeeper.
Example Three: Harry Mcguire was a world cup semi-finalist, European championship finalist, and solid PM defender.
Example Three: Paul Konchesky was a solid PL player before his move to Liverpool.
Worthwhile remembering that Brown had an off-field issue that could conceivably still be affecting his performances. People appear predisposed to overlook this, as also in the case of Harry Maguire.
I also think fans orientate towards scapegoating 'flair' players, because, when things aren't going well, they aren't offering anything. However, effort alone isn't sufficient, as we have also scapegoated players with little or no discernible talent, such as Craig Stanley and Rob Quinn.
I would drop Brown and Collins and give them sub appearances until they start contributing and showing something and then gradually integrate them back into the team.
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Post by harrybuckle on Jan 18, 2024 13:30:03 GMT
Taken from the books by Mike Jay and Stephen Byrne as reference: Terry is still going strong and will be 85 on April 1st.Terence James Oldfield (born 1st April 1939) is a former professional footballer, who played as a centre forward and wing half in The Football League for Bristol Rovers and Wrexham between 1958 and 1967. Oldfield began playing football in his home town of Bristol, first for Bristol Boys, and then briefly as an amateur for Bristol City and Clifton St. Vincents. He signed with Bristol Rovers as an amateur in February 1958 and turned professional with them in 1960. He made 132 League appearances and scored eleven goals with The Pirates, before joining Welsh club Wrexham and being appointed their captain in 1966. He was to last only a single year with The Robins though, as a knee injury forced him to retire from playing in 1967, aged 28. After his retirement from playing, he worked as the trainer of Bradford Park Avenue, a scout for Bristol Rovers, and a manager of his former non-League side Clifton St. Vincents. In addition, he also worked as an estate agent and auctioneer in Keynsham and ran the Red Lion pub in Odd Down. He also played cricket for Brislington Cricket Club, and golf for Saltford golf club. From our Bristol Rovers History Group website Terence James Oldfield. 1960-66. Born, 1.4.1939, Bristol. Died, 28.3.2018, Clevedon. 5’ 10”; 11 st 2 lbs. Début: 5.11.60 v Sunderland. Career: Bristol Boys; Bristol City; Clifton St Vincent’s; February 1958 Bristol Rovers (professional, February 1959) [131+1,11]; 5.7.66 Wrexham (free) [39+1,6]; August 1967 Bradford Park Avenue (trainer); Bristol Rovers (scout); Clifton St Vincent’s (manager); Red Lion. Regular wing-half Terry Oldfield was a staunch member of Rovers’ side following relegation to Division Three in the spring of 1962. The younger son of Charles Oldfield and Kathleen Smith, who had married in Bristol in 1931, he had helped St Vincent’s reach the Norman Hardy Cup Final in 1957 and represented the Saltford golf club. Fielded at centre-forward on Boxing Day 1960, he scored a hat-trick as the reserves defeated Swindon Town reserves 6-0. Tall and strong, he offered tactical nous in Rovers’ half-back line and his tally of seven League goals in 1962-63 was critical to the club’s eventual achievement of surviving the potential drop into the basement division. He had scored twice when the reserves defeated Shrewsbury Town reserves 4-3 in November 1959. One season as captain at Wrexham ended with the knee injury, sustained in the Welsh Cup Final which was lost to Cardiff City, which necessitated his retirement and led him to become, at just twenty-eight, trainer at Park Avenue. This knee injury left him with a permanent dropped foot. Prior to his professional career, Oldfield had played in the Bristol City side which reached the FA Youth Cup quarter-finals. A club cricketer with Brislington, latterly alongside his son, and who had made sporadic appearances with the Somerset 2nd XI, Oldfield became an estate agent at Cooper and Tanner and an auctioneer at Keynsham, ran the “Red Lion” at Odd Down, for whose pub side he played, and latterly lived in Backwell, working as a taxi driver in the Bristol area. Married with both a son, Darrell, married to Helen, and a daughter, Lisa, he died at 1.10pm on the Wednesday before Easter weekend 2018. |
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Post by bluetornados on Jan 18, 2024 15:02:05 GMT
Taken from the books by Mike Jay and Stephen Byrne as reference: Terry is still going strong and will be 85 on April 1st.Terence James Oldfield (born 1st April 1939) is a former professional footballer, who played as a centre forward and wing half in The Football League for Bristol Rovers and Wrexham between 1958 and 1967. Oldfield began playing football in his home town of Bristol, first for Bristol Boys, and then briefly as an amateur for Bristol City and Clifton St. Vincents. He signed with Bristol Rovers as an amateur in February 1958 and turned professional with them in 1960. He made 132 League appearances and scored eleven goals with The Pirates, before joining Welsh club Wrexham and being appointed their captain in 1966. He was to last only a single year with The Robins though, as a knee injury forced him to retire from playing in 1967, aged 28. After his retirement from playing, he worked as the trainer of Bradford Park Avenue, a scout for Bristol Rovers, and a manager of his former non-League side Clifton St. Vincents. In addition, he also worked as an estate agent and auctioneer in Keynsham and ran the Red Lion pub in Odd Down. He also played cricket for Brislington Cricket Club, and golf for Saltford golf club. From our Bristol Rovers History Group website Terence James Oldfield. 1960-66. Born, 1.4.1939, Bristol. Died, 28.3.2018, Clevedon. 5’ 10”; 11 st 2 lbs. Début: 5.11.60 v Sunderland. Career: Bristol Boys; Bristol City; Clifton St Vincent’s; February 1958 Bristol Rovers (professional, February 1959) [131+1,11]; 5.7.66 Wrexham (free) [39+1,6]; August 1967 Bradford Park Avenue (trainer); Bristol Rovers (scout); Clifton St Vincent’s (manager); Red Lion. Regular wing-half Terry Oldfield was a staunch member of Rovers’ side following relegation to Division Three in the spring of 1962. The younger son of Charles Oldfield and Kathleen Smith, who had married in Bristol in 1931, he had helped St Vincent’s reach the Norman Hardy Cup Final in 1957 and represented the Saltford golf club. Fielded at centre-forward on Boxing Day 1960, he scored a hat-trick as the reserves defeated Swindon Town reserves 6-0. Tall and strong, he offered tactical nous in Rovers’ half-back line and his tally of seven League goals in 1962-63 was critical to the club’s eventual achievement of surviving the potential drop into the basement division. He had scored twice when the reserves defeated Shrewsbury Town reserves 4-3 in November 1959. One season as captain at Wrexham ended with the knee injury, sustained in the Welsh Cup Final which was lost to Cardiff City, which necessitated his retirement and led him to become, at just twenty-eight, trainer at Park Avenue. This knee injury left him with a permanent dropped foot. Prior to his professional career, Oldfield had played in the Bristol City side which reached the FA Youth Cup quarter-finals. A club cricketer with Brislington, latterly alongside his son, and who had made sporadic appearances with the Somerset 2nd XI, Oldfield became an estate agent at Cooper and Tanner and an auctioneer at Keynsham, ran the “Red Lion” at Odd Down, for whose pub side he played, and latterly lived in Backwell, working as a taxi driver in the Bristol area. Married with both a son, Darrell, married to Helen, and a daughter, Lisa, he died at 1.10pm on the Wednesday before Easter weekend 2018. Thanks for the update Harry, i have amended his age details, the web page must have not been updated... |
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